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#6572893 Aug 18, 2012 at 09:07 AM
Tribune
171 Posts
I've got the paid version of fraps, have for many many moons. On my old pc, when I did one of my many wipe and reinstalls, I bought a hdd to be the new 'master' drive (600GB and 7.2krpm) and kept the old one as a backup and recording drive since there was nothing wrong with it, it was just 250GB and 5k rpm. With my new computer I haven't tried it out yet while playing GW2 (and if we don't get another stress test that might wait until release), but currently I only have one hard drive.

If anyone else has a pretty recent rig and runs fraps or another game recording program, or even streaming live, what do you think about hard drives vs recording?

A few (maybe more than a few...) years ago it was recommended to have the game running on one hard drive, and the recording saving the video files to another hard drive, but that was also with my above hdds and a intel core2duo chip. I have a WD 500GB Velociraptor 10k RPM (cheap on PC Connection! newegg is almost $50 more but has reviews and better specs so I linked that instead) as my only hard drive. I know the biggest thing will be to just test it when I can and see what performance I get, but was wondering if anyone had any recent experience with this and how you've got your hard drives vs recording programs set up. :)
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#6573205 Aug 18, 2012 at 10:15 AM
Soldier
13 Posts
I got a new computer that's capable of recording but I've no idea how to get started, If I did, I'd record with the game running on my SSD and put the footage on my 500gb hard drive for sure.

While I can't help you with your questions unfortunately as I have no experience, are you planning to record special guild events or even your first day of playing just for memories?
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#6573278 Aug 18, 2012 at 10:34 AM
Tribune
171 Posts
I'll be recording any events, but also any pvp matches or tournaments for both personal or guild use. For myself I'd like to review what I could've done better in an encounter, to learn to get better. I like pvp and I want to be good at my profession. :)

I'd like to record all of us getting together opening weekend somewhere, maybe Lion's Arch by the fountain depending on how crowded, so in a few months when we're all 80 and looking awesome, we can look back at our starter gear and see how far we've come. Lol
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#6573325 Aug 18, 2012 at 10:42 AM
Soldier
30 Posts
i would recommend a external hard drive for fraps. or a second one at least as fraps tends to bottleneck a drive you are using for it. I use a second 1 tb hd for fraps , i had no problems during stress test with lag , though i mainly recorded the cool fountain in lions arch and one segment of me pwning a mesmer cause mesmers annoy me.
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#6574327 Aug 18, 2012 at 02:35 PM
Soldier
22 Posts
#6573325 Madmartigan wrote:

i would recommend a external hard drive for fraps. or a second one at least as fraps tends to bottleneck a drive you are using for it. I use a second 1 tb hd for fraps , i had no problems during stress test with lag , though i mainly recorded the cool fountain in lions arch and one segment of me pwning a mesmer cause mesmers annoy me.



I have never done recording of a game before but what Madmartigan says seems totally logical to me. I think fraps is a 32bit program so it is limited in terms of ram. The only thing i would be concerned about ( I have never done this so I maybe way out in left field) is that an external drive might have a bottle neck depending on its connection. What FPS and resolution are you looking to get while recording?

I just read this. Fraps Tips and Tricks



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#6574516 Aug 18, 2012 at 03:22 PM
Tribune
171 Posts
I'll be playing the game at 1920x1080, and the last stress test I was sitting comfortably at 80fps and even when they asked us to head to divinity's reach I was still at a comfortable 40fps when everyone else was saying they had lag or visual/sound errors. I checked out that link you left, that had a lot of great info in it! Especially the one one of the comments on that site linked to, which has some good tweak advice. (Just in case anyone else is looking)

It sounds like the best thing to do is get an additional hdd, just like several years ago, to let each drive do something different. That link suggested partitioning the first 30% for fraps, if I get another internal hdd, is it worth partitioning it? The 500gb one I have will be fine for games and the OS, I probably won't use more than half that. (I didn't use more than 250gb in my old computer, and that was with everything installed: adobe suites for web design, photo and video editing software, warhammer, warcraft, aion, guild wars 1, and then the beta client for gw2, etc) If the second drive I get will be nothing but fraps(etc) recorded video, would there be any performance issues leaving it unpartitioned, and doing to the entire drive what he says to do to a partition to prep it for fraps recording? (Although I probably wouldn't disable the recycle bin)

Optimize the Fraps partition:
Disable Windows System Restore.
Disable file compression.
Disable the Recycle bin (if you aren't sure you want to delete something, move it
to another partition)
Have plenty of free space (try to have at least 30% free, or twice whatever you plan
to record, whichever is more)
Defrag often. Fraps needs lots of contiguous free space to help avoid the dreaded, so called 4GB freeze.
Perform chkdsk {Drive:} /r /f /v (requires reboot, but increases performance)


Also, if you guys have any other game recording software that you prefer, I'm open to suggestions. Fraps I bought a looooooong time ago, and it has free updates for life, only reason I'm still using it, not true brand loyalty. :)
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#6575942 Aug 18, 2012 at 08:44 PM
Soldier
13 Posts
I think the opening weekend recording in lions arch sounds good. I toured the city and there are tons of amazing places it could be done
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#6586490 Aug 20, 2012 at 03:48 PM · Edited 5 years ago
Soldier
22 Posts
I was reading about fraps and alternatives and came across this.
Playclaw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DcFRsfGLlA&feature=player_embedded

Seems like it is pretty good.
Review
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#6586975 Aug 20, 2012 at 05:08 PM · Edited 5 years ago
Soldier
16 Posts
I've been messing around with Fraps alot during BWE/stresstest. I've been recording and editing boss kills in Warcraft for years and I plan on doing quite a bit with GW2. I usually cap my framerate when recording at around 40-45fps. I have tried higher but I feel like I get the best performance at the 40-45 range.

Zane

PS - I also use the WD 600gb Raptor (10k rpm) with a 2 TB hdd for storage only and I record at 1920x1080.





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#6696580 Sep 10, 2012 at 04:27 PM · Edited 5 years ago
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I had a livestream set up for GW2 and recorded a bit but kinda got annoyed with always being recorded- i keep fraps running constantly in game as a nice fps counter-my rig isn't bad its the fully loaded Alienware x51(i know i know its alienware dont hate lol) and i record alot- i used to be a guild leader in Allods Online and I recorded our raid boss fights and other things, always just using fraps paid version

Heres a GW2 vid i made to show my brother the game(trying to convince him to join lol)

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOOzAuIdd7U&feature=plcp

and heres another of Allods Online I made when we did our first successful AC run-boss looks easy lol bc while fighting tthe boss youre also fighting 24 enemy players with checkpoints and a time limit-very complicated system but we got lucky and did our first run without any pvp

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4cEKq25itU&feature=plcp


EDIT: recording at 1920x1080 as well and capping at 40fps, i run three monitors and thats about as high as i can get with the pressure on my vid card
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